READER QUESTION:  GLORY TRAIN  2/21/10

Do you think that the glory train that Bob Jones prophesied will come in 2012, is the fulfillment of the manifested sons of God in Romans 8?

THE MANIFESTATION OF GOD'S SONS

According to the context of Romans 8, the revealing of God’s glory in His sons will be an experience whereby they are fully adopted and redeemed, and not just with a down payment of the Holy Spirit.  The earth will be redeemed at that time too, into the same liberty, and probably because of the authority given to His sons.  When these things take place, His sons will be walking in the greater works prophesied by Jesus and they will be fully walking in miracles, signs and wonders.  They will also be walking in the kind of body Jesus had after His resurrection upon the earth.  This will happen because of the seriousness of the times and the need. 

Rom 8:14-23 NKJV

For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. 15 For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, "Abba, Father." 16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, 17 and if children, then heirs — heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him, that we may also be glorified together. For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. 19 For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God. 20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; 21 because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now. 23 Not only that, but we also who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, eagerly waiting for the adoption, the redemption of our body. 

ADOPTION

Eph 1:5

Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will...

NT:5206 ADOPTION

NT:5206 huiothesia (hwee-oth-es-ee'-ah); from a presumed compound of NT:5207 and a derivative of NT:5087; the placing as a son, i.e. adoption (figuratively, Christian sonship in respect to God):

KJV - adoption (of children, of sons).

NT:629

NT:629 apolutrosis (ap-ol-oo'-tro-sis); from a compound of NT:575 and NT:3083; (the act) ransom in full, i.e. (figuratively) riddance, or (specially) Christian salvation:

KJV - deliverance, redemption.

NT:3083

NT:3083 lutron (loo'-tron); from NT:3089; something to loose with, i.e. a redemption price (figuratively, atonement):

KJV - ransom.

NT:3089

NT:3089 luo (loo'-o); a primary verb; to "loosen" (literally or figuratively):

KJV - break (up), destroy, dissolve, (un-) loose, melt, put off. Compare NT:4486.

Eph 4:13-16

...till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; 14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, 15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head — Christ —  16 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.

Eph 3:19-21

... to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge; that you may be filled with all the fullness of God. 20 Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us, 21 to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus to all generations, forever and ever. Amen.  

VISION:  MANIFESTATION OF THE SONS OF GOD

On 3/13/85, I was given a trance vision of the revealing of the sons of God.  The music, "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" was heard in the throne room and suddenly ears of corn fell from heaven. I saw them plunge into the ground like spears, head first. As I gazed at the corn, I saw a turtledove inside each ear. They appeared lifeless and immobile. Just as I was wondering if they were dead, the husks peeled away and out of each ear popped a turtledove. It was as though they had waited until the right time to come forth. When they came forth, each popped out in their own timing, however they all came forth in the same season. I heard the Lord say to me the Word, "Shibboleth."

He referred me to Song of Solomon, 2:12 "The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle (dove) is heard in the land."

SHIBBOLETH

These turtle dove sons were inside corn husks, and that is dark speech that the Lord has spoken much about in years past, regarding the mystery word, shibboleth.  Shibboleth is like a woman's bridal train being fully extended and flowing.  It is also related to an ear of grain fully growing out.  The scripture shares the process of a seed, the blade, the head and then the full grain in the head with the harvest.  He has shared this process in past rhema in the parable of watching corn fields grow up and become fully mature. 

Zech 4:12

And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches {7641} which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?

OT:7641   SHIBBOLETH

shibbol (shib-bole); or (feminine) shibboleth (shib-bo'-leth); from the same as OT:7640; a stream (as flowing); also an ear of grain (as growing out); by analogy, a branch:

KJV - branch, channel, ear (of corn), ({water-}) flood, Shibboleth. Compare OT:5451.

OT:7640

shobel (show'-bel); from an unused root meaning to flow; a lady's train (as trailing after her): 

Because these manifested sons will be walking upon the earth as Jesus walked, they will doing so in the fullness of the Holy Spirit.  Jesus walked the earth in the fullness of the Spirit and He was the firstborn among many brethren.  This fullness is also connected to our awaiting the fulfillment of the feast of Tabernacles where God fully dwells within us, which will be an experience just as salvation and the baptism of the Spirit are experiences that fulfilled the feasts of Passover and Pentecost.  All 3 experiences will be available for all men to receive as they grow up in the maturity of Christ.  The parable of this is also related in the 30 fold, 60 fold and 100 fold fruit.

If this all takes place with the glory train in 2012, I would be so happy!  But in my past rhema, the glory train releases a double portion power of God upon the earth, and that is still not His fullness.  So my best guess is that the glory train and the manifestation of the sons of God in Romans 8 are 2 different experiences in Him.

Eph 3:19 NKJV

to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge; that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.

Rom 8:29-30 NKJV

 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.

Mark 4:26-29 NKJV

And He said, "The kingdom of God is as if a man should scatter seed on the ground,  27 and should sleep by night and rise by day, and the seed should sprout and grow, he himself does not know how.  28 For the earth yields crops by itself: first the blade, then the head, after that the full grain in the head.  29 But when the grain ripens, immediately he puts in the sickle, because the harvest has come."

THE DOUBLE PORTION

Many years ago Bob Jones saw the word ichabod written over the churches and it meant the glory had departed.  Evidently they were clearing out hospitals by praying for the sick and then after Bob saw the vision, it all stopped and hasnt been like that since.  Bob told the Lord he didnt want to live anymore, if that was the case. And the Lord said that His glory would return to the earth when Bob was old and white haired and it would never again depart from the earth. 

I have had rhema in the past about the glory train and I interpret His glory train to be the fulfillment of His promises of double portion anointing, (220 power) and that the radical power and Presence of God will manifest.   And yes, I believe this train is the full return of His glory that the Lord promised Bob.  Thus far, we have had pockets of glory, but the fullness of His glory has not been released in our meetings and lives. 

In the 90's I received rhema that I would attend a meeting of His glory that would change my life and then I was given the days to count down.  It came to pass and I have never been the same since.  Even my face became sunburn from having been in the glory.  He told me that meeting was a foretaste of what was coming in the glory train.  When I fell in His power, I shook violently for 3 months every time I heard Him speak to me, or heard His quickened Word.   In the middle of the night I would hear His voice and my hands and legs pounded on the mattress so hard you could hear it.  The power of God was like nothing I had ever known existed before.  We are in for some very radical times as He pours His power out upon us and through us to desperate people in desperate times. COME HOLY SPIRIT, WE WELCOME YOU INTO OUR LIVES AND MEETINGS, IN JESUS NAME!