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About Second Heaven Revelation

Dreams and Visions from the 2nd Heaven are usually void of color and are different variations of black and grey.  It is called dark light.

Luke 11:34-36 The lamp of the body is the eye: therefore when your eye is sound, your whole body also is full of light; but when your eye is evil, your body also is full of darkness. 35 Take heed therefore that the light which is in you be not darkness. 36 If your whole body therefore be full of light, having no part dark, the whole shall be full of light, as when the bright shining of a lamp does give you light.

ABOUT THE SECOND HEAVEN AND PROPHESY

The second heaven is the band of atmosphere above earth, where the principalities and rulers live.

Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in heavenly places.

God created everything for His own purposes, and He uses them for such.  When the devil fell and took 1/3 of the angels with him, principalities fell too and their domain is in the second heaven.  God could have destroyed evil when they fell, by sending them to the lake of fire at that time.  He instead allowed evil to stay so that all who are given free will, would have a chance to make their own choice in whom they will serve.  Until the full redemptive plan comes forth into the earth, evil remains and is under God’s jurisdiction to help purge and test the earth. 

There are still 2/3rds more good principalities and scripture doesn’t tell us if they abide in the 3rd heaven or the 2nd heaven.  I have seen both and am unsure where the holy ones dwell.  I know it is UP and my sense is that they dwell in the 3rd heaven with the Father.  Scripture tells us they live in heavenly places and Jesus sits far above them.

Colossians 1:16-17 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things are held together.

Ephesians 1:19-21 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power toward us who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, 20 Which he performed in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, 21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age, but also in that which is to come:

Ephesians 3:10-11 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God, 11 According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:

Sometimes prophetic people receive revelations from the second heaven and think it is God.  The devil’s purpose is very simple: he kills, steals and destroys.  The devil is bad news and there is nothing good in him.  The devil is a liar and prophesies lies.  His ways are deceptive where he steals the truth and then perverts and twists it.  If he releases only lies no one would believe him, so he takes portions of truth and bends it for his own purposes.

John 10:10 The thief comes not, but to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

John 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his cunning, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

The devil can give prophetic people dreams, visions, voices, and supernatural encounters.  These experiences are why it is vital to mature in God so that we are able to discern between the holy and the profane and throw out all that is mixture.  The only pure gift is a GOOD gift and only the Father can send us good gifts. This makes discernment very simple if you reduce it to childlike knowledge of what is good.

James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

Hebrews 5:14 But solid food belongs to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

REASONS WHY PEOPLE RECEIVE SECOND HEAVEN REVELATIONS

There are reasons why prophetic people are getting second heaven revelations and not pure revelation without mixture.

DARKNESS EXPOSED

Most of the negative revelations released are shedding light on the demonic intent.  God allows this for His purposes.  The devil wants this for his purposes.  It is important to understand their two contrasting purposes.

Ephesians 5:11-13 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. 12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret. 13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever does make manifest is light.

John 3:19-20 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone that does evil hates the light, neither comes to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed.

THE DEVIL’S PLAN

The devil is using the prognosticators of the day to prophesy his news.  The prognosticators are the media in tv, advertisement, newspapers, internet, etc.  They are spreading lies, rumors and focus on tragedy and bad news.  The prognosticators are also coming through witchcraft, new age and other religions.  And finally the prognosticators are coming through false prophesy among deceived Christians.

Through the prognosticators, it is the devils intent to:

  • ·       Breed fear
  • ·       Oppose faith in God
  • ·       Capitalize on bad news
  • ·       Honor rebellion
  • ·       Cause the world to fall asleep to the truth in God
  • ·       Offer carnal entertainment to escape stress
  • ·       Cause blindness to his plans towards the antichrist
  • ·       Deceive Christians
  • ·       Get people’s focus off God and onto evil

GOD EXPOSES THE DEVIL’S PLAN FOR HIS PURPOSE

When God’s light shines on a dark plan, it is very important to understand WHY.  It isn’t to cause people to believe and accept the devil’s plan, it is for the purpose to REJECT it.

1 John 3:8B  For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

·       Do not believe the bad plans of the enemy

·       Raise a standard against the plans of the enemy

·       Pray against the demonic plans

·       Refuse the demonic plans

·       Take authority over the demonic plans

·       Stand in the gap against the demonic plans through sacrifice and holy life

·       Cast your holy vote by what you watch, what you spend your money on, at the polls, what you speak about and making righteous choices

If you believe the devil’s plan, that is what you receive and that is exactly what will happen.  Your faith in the revelation activates this.  When this happens, you are misunderstanding the revelation is from the second heaven and is not the pure intent of the Father or purpose.

WHAT SHOULD THE PROPHETS DO WITH CARRION

Eagles eat snakes, and eagles eat carrion.  An eagle eats a live snake, when he foresees a demonic plot, and is sent to destroy it and then he eats the victory of the demonic defeat as his meat.  It strengthens one when he is sent with purpose to defeat the demonic plan.

Carrion is strong meat, but it is filthy dead meat and not a fresh kill.  Dead meat is full of maggots, which are the breeding ground of lies.  Carrion is listening/ seeing the demonic and making announcements of what is heard/ seen and receiving that as a Word from the Lord.   That is counterfeit, giving heed (listening to) seducing spirits and doctrines of demons.  There is no discernment or filtering the source, it is simply accepting what a vision or what is heard is the Lord, and not accepting it is deception. 

There are times in famine when intercessors can receive sustenance from dead, rancid meat of the enemy.  Those are times when the warfare is so bad, that suddenly they realize they must have hit a nerve somewhere and the enemy would not fight so hard if they were not on track.  It is a strange way of gaining faith to persist, but when one is not hearing encouragement from the Lord, even eating dead meat can give some strength as long as a person understands this is demonic revelation and able to separate and unwind the perverted truth from such.

  • ·       Do not prophesy the bad plans of the enemy
  • ·       Raise a holy standard against what you see as bad news
  • ·       Learn to prophesy in opposite spirit
  • ·       Stir up prayer warriors against the demonic
  • ·       Heed the warning to avoid it and resist it

SPIES SENT TO COUNTERACT THE DEMONIC PLOTS

1 John 3:8B He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

The Lord is Supreme in our lives, and what He allows is from Him.  When He spotlights a demonic manifestation, it is for a purpose… either for a warning in how to pray or be on guard against, or so that it will be destroyed. 

1)  We take what we see to prayer – individually.  If we announce it corporately, we offer prayer over it corporately.

When it is a God thing sending someone into the enemy camp, usually they bring back fresh and strong meat with announcement for intercessory strategy.  I have seen this operate in Bob Jones for many years.  He was extremely accurate on all levels of announcements into that particular realm. 

2)  We take authority over what we see if it is a demon on earth.  However if the enemy lives in the 2nd heaven, we submit ourselves God and pray that He will bring repentance to the people and then dismantle the power of the enemy ruling over them.

3)  We use the information revealed to heed the warning, lest we fall.

2 Peter 3:17 You therefore, beloved, seeing you know these things beforehand, beware lest you also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own steadfastness.

4)  We can use the demonic plot as an opportunity to prophesy in the opposite spirit.  Saying the enemy plots this, but God is greater and He says this.

Rom 12:21

Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

5)  If we overcome the demonic plan we see or hear, then we gain strength as we see it fall.  And this is where the eagles eat the snakes.

WORD TO PONDER:  WATCHMEN ON THE WALLS OF FAITH 5/09/06

I AM raising up watchmen on the walls of faith, who are learning to prophesy My heart and not the devil’s plans.   When I speak, it brings life and protection.  When the enemy speaks, it is the opposite.  Just because a revelation is supernatural does not mean that My Holy Spirit is the Source.  Look for life and receive life through My Words.  It is good training to choose your words carefully and make sure that you do not have more faith in the devil’s intentions, than in the My Words over such.  It is learning to walk a tightrope of revelation and keeping your focus on Me. 

Watchmen declare good news, and news of pending alarm.  I also send some on special assignments as spies into the camp of the enemy.  They find doors opened to take back what has been plundered and discover potential warning signs to be on the alert.  These special assignments are not without remedy.  To merely prophesy and focus on what the devil intends, builds faith in the devil. 

Much of today’s revelations are going through school to be trained either inside or outside the camp of the Lord or the camp of the enemy.  Tests are for preparation.  I waste nothing in your life and use all things for good.  Overcome evil with good.  Learn to pray and prophesy in the opposite spirit of the demonic intent.  This is a key – stand against a demonic intent, so that the revelation does not come to pass.  Declare My scriptures against the demonic intents when you see them.

Isa 62:6-7 NKJV

I have set watchmen on your walls, O Jerusalem; They shall never hold their peace day or night. You who make mention of the LORD, do not keep silent,  And give Him no rest till He establishes and till He makes Jerusalem a praise in the earth.

MATURITY DISCERNS BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL

I am reminded that when God sends His 2 edged sword, there is always 2 sides. His Word separates the soul from the spirit, good from evil, the holy from the profane.

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is living, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Hebrews 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, [even] those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

1 Corinthians 2:10-16 But God hath revealed [them] unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

TRUTH BETWEEN 2 POLES  1/31/05

The truth about Truth… is that all Truth is held between the tension of 2 poles.  Within everything that is supernatural there are 2 opposite interpretations, the demonic side and the heavenly side.  Something that is not purely one side or the other, is mixed with soul and/or demonic.  The enemy always uses truth as a drawing card, and then he subtlety twists it just enough for us to swallow it.

It is true that you can find meat and sustenance in anything, if you spit out all the bones. Now is the time when all things inspired are coming to fruition, both from the demonic and the heavenly.  You are now in a time where I will be teaching you how to discern between the clean and the unclean, how to keep the good gifts and heed the warnings from negative ones, and how to keep your focus on My perspective and not the enemy’s.

Ezekiel 44:23 NKJV

And they shall teach My people the difference between the holy and the unholy, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean.

AN INVITATION TO COME UP HIGHER INTO PURE REVELATIONS

I had heard the Lord say Anna Roundtree this month so I listened to her audio version of the book “Heaven Awaits the Bride.”   She rode on the white eagle and was taken places.  The white eagle was Jesus, Who is the Spirit of Prophecy.  And He gave her an invitation to become a golden eagle which would become like Him, the white eagle.  Here are the quotes that were super quickened to me:

QUOTES

“I too looked up and saw a large, totally white Eagle.  He was powerful, fierce and majestic in flight.  I had never heard of a completely white eagle.

“Stretch out your hands,” He said as He began His descent. …I did not know what to do but to stretch out my hands.  The Eagle, was as large as I, backed into me so that His eyes and beak were where my face was.  Then just as quickly, He was before me again, with His eyes piercing into mine.  I gasped.  Just as quickly, the Eagle changed into the Lord.  He said, “This is so you may know that the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”  Then He became the white eagle again…

… As I lay down with my arms around His neck and my head near the back of His head, I could feel the motion of flying beneath me.  His feathers were snowy, and His scent made me want to bury my face deep within His feathers.  Beneath the white feathers the great Eagle’s skin looked like pure gold.

{later}… As I viewed the surrounding mountain range, a string of very large paper dolls floated by.  The great Eagle spoke, “So much of what is happening now in the body of Christ is like paper dolls – one copying the other.”

 The paper dolls disappeared, and an eagle of pure gold flew by me.  “I am looking for an eagle of gold, Anna – rare beyond measure.” As He spoke, power like a surge of electricity ran all over the eagle of gold.  It became pure white, like the great white Eagle.  “The golden eagle becomes like Me,” He said.”

The White Eagle’s Invitation

Then a line of large, paper, cut-out eagles floated across the mountain range.  They hooked together as the floating paper dolls had been.  He continued, “There are many eagles, for I am generous with the gift of the Holy Spirit.  But Anna, I am giving you an invitation to become an eagle of gold.”

Suddenly I saw a rocket blast off from the earth and shoot into heaven.  The great Eagle continued, “The golden eagle’s nest is in heaven.  The golden eagle does not even eat earthly food.  It feeds above.  The paper doll eagles catch fish, kill snakes, chase rabbits; but the eagle of gold breaths the ether above.  It does not seek after or eat carrion.  The gold eagle eats from the hand of God until it looks and smells and is like Me – pure white.  There are many that look like Me, but you must eat from the hand of God to be like Me.”

His eyes were aflame now, “Will you fly with Me Anna, over streets of gold?  Will you fly with Me over lakes so clear that the bottom is as the top?  Leave the snakes, the bugs the rabbits running rabbit trails.  Come with Me and feed from the hand of God.”

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